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Re: Farina newbie

Post243009UTC WedUTC2016-04-27T09:43:53+00:00 2018...17.52

Hello and welcome to the forum. I really hope you'll consider joining our club. Our spares service is excellent.
The engine mods are good, though i'd suggest some work on the cylinder head. Actually, IF you can find them, an MG Metro inlet manifold and SU carburettor is a simpler way to go,and simpler to set up too.
I don't know of any 14" wheels that will fit. If you did find some, they'll alter your speedo reading. On my 67 Midget i've got 165/70-13 tyres. Late Midget ro-styles are a little bit wider i believe, so 175s will fit ok. There's also the option of changing the diff ratio to a Midget 3.9 or 3.7, ( these will alter the speedo reading too ). The latter is scarce....perhaps more so in NZ. Also, at a pinch, there's the Ford type 9 5-speed gearbox conversion. A bit of tunnel modding required, but parts for the conversion are available.
Really, the"only" front brake option IS Midget discs.
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243010UTC WedUTC2016-04-27T10:03:02+00:00 2018...17.52

Hi,
I wish you well with your car. Check that the lcb fits, a Midget one (if that`s what you have) is a different length. Ideally you need a Midget gearbox, or a Ford type 9 conversion, as the bronze bushes in a standard gearbox won`t last very long. If you are looking at what is supposed to be a Midget gearbox take the side cover off. If you can see bronze between the mainshaft gears it isn`t a Midget box (they have roller mainshaft bearings). You really should get some disc brakes; if you can`t get a pair of Midget uprights try JLH Morris Minors; A Minor kit might fit. You won`t get 185/60s under standard wheel arches, you will need to fold the arch lip in and pull the arches out a bit, or use 175/70s.
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243011UTC WedUTC2016-04-27T11:10:47+00:00 2018...17.52

Re the Midget disc conversion.............
Shock absorbers are the same.
Peferably, use Midget wishbones, as they have strengthening gussets fitted. Bear in mind though, that they'll need re-drilling to fit the A40 anti-roll bar. Midgets have a different fixing.
You'll need the Midget "disc brake" stub axles, as they have the attachment for the brake calipers.
Brake calipers.
Discs....readily available and cheap.
King pins........be aware that earlier king pins for drum brakes had a smaller bottom journal.
Brake pipes will need to be made to suit.
Disc back plate

Disc brakes were introduced in Oct 62. Its king pin is :- 8G 4220

Most items will need reconditioning if you buy 2nd hand. Basically, axles, wishbones and callipers.
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243006UTC WedUTC2016-04-27T18:33:07+00:00 2018...17.52

1 Mk2 wishbones have the strengthening gussets as per Midget
2 To avoid fouling the arb stub axles should be swapped ie left unit, fit to right.
3 Do not use the Midget steering arms (wrong shape )
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243006UTC WedUTC2016-04-27T18:38:25+00:00 2018...17.52

Mike Hodgson wrote:1 Mk2 wishbones have the strengthening gussets as per Midget
2 To avoid fouling the arb stub axles should be swapped ie left unit, fit to right.
3 Do not use the Midget steering arms (wrong shape )


Yes, i forgot about points 2 & 3. Been that long since i had my wishbones off, i've forgotten what they were like.
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243011UTC ThuUTC2016-04-28T11:58:33+00:00 2018...17.52

To elaborate on the swapping from side to side. Midgets (not frogeyes) have different stub axles to the A40 with a cast in caliper bracket. Midget calipers fit at the front of the disc but will foul on an A40 so you swap the uprights side to side so the calipers fit at the back. Make up a simple bracket for the flexy brake hose to weld on to the top of the spring support and use a Triumph Spitfire flexy hose. You need a pair of Midget uprights (not available new) but everything else is available new.
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243012UTC ThuUTC2016-04-28T12:40:57+00:00 2018...17.52

It's just the drum brake uprights/axles that don't have the caliper fixings John. That is, 948cc Mk1 Midgets and Mk2 Sprites.
Interesting to know that Spitfire hoses can be used. I take it that's just Spitfire disc brake types ? ( Did Spitfires ever have drum brakes ? ).
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243104UTC TueUTC2016-05-03T16:40:24+00:00 2018...17.52

Still think it'll be a lot more straightforward fitting Midget gear. All available over here, a bit expensive to get it i know, but all straight bolt on.
In my opinion, 8.4" vented discs and 4 pot calipers are way over the top............unless you're fitting a tuned/modded V8 etc.
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Re: Farina newbie

Post243101UTC ThuUTC2016-05-05T13:58:38+00:00 2018...17.52

Ah, fair enough. Didn't realise the 4 pots were the Metro ones. ( Shoulda known....i've chuffin got one.......... :oops: :oops: ).
That being the case, obviously far cheaper than air freighting Midget bits, which, as you say, will all need reconning !

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